Abuse isnt always immediately obvious and usually requires investigation to confirm. I do. Shes going to have to be extemporaneous [done without preparation], and that is going to be hard for her.. He is the one spending millions of dollars to run a pointless show trial on tv which has already had the effect of scaring domestic abuse victims everywhere into silence for fear they will be treated the way Heard has, because they were not perfect victims. Which was horrible and disgusting and deeply disturbed. A redden spot on the cheek doesn't count towards damage nor does a bruise on the arm. They were both completely toxic though and the trial is a mess . They should be focused on helping themselves rather than pointing the finger at each other. Maybe Im crazy but I believe Johnny Depp 100% & I wasnt even a Johnny Depp fan prior. Pick your battles. think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. Pathological liar. Pennington describes a scene where Johnny walks by, says "get your hands off my woman" and then leaves. All too often, allegations of domestic violence and sexual assault are met with scepticism and suspicion. This site uses cookies. Two are women who believe that AH being abusive is the "reactive abuse" that the psychologist used to excuse her actions. Some of the messages were: Call Carly Simon, she said it better, babe, because his past relationships have all said that he was not abusive. Shes far more concise and believable than he was (imo). does not make logical sense. But guess what? bruises dont like to be touched, Depp leaned into his lawyer and smirked. So why such hatred for Heard? I know a couple people who are on ambers side because they think Johnny Depp is getting better treatment and that people believe him simply because hes Jonny Depp. I havent been following much, but from what I have seen it sounds to me like he was pushed into reactive abuse. hammering Heard over her promise to donate her divorce settlement to charities, donations not yet fulfilled. As a society, its important that we believe women. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. I call B S. I cannot imagine someone that was so "concerned" about his sobriety, self report to the "fake nurse report* as drinking 3 to 4 glasses of red wine per day. Johnny also misconstrued amber wanting to help him with drugs: she tried to encourage sobriety on him and he saw it as nagging and controlling, also didnt believe he had a problem, and when he did see the problem, his pride led him to having a hard time admitting that to amber after he spent years denying it. He admitted it to his own doctor and those messages were shown in the trial. I just believe Johnny over Amber, thats all. Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). ", Listening Amber Heard's testimony. By signing up you agree to our User Agreement and Privacy Policy & Cookie Statement. Registered office: 3rd floor, Latin Hall, Golden Lane, Dublin 8. It's really hard to know what is authentic and what is an act. Speaking to Channel 7's Sunrise on Thursday, psychologist and broadcaster Cooper Lawrence did "not mince her words", to quote the show's co-host Natalie Barr. Yet the prevailing narrative, still, is that this trial is rehabbing Depps image, saving his career, and vindicating his reputation. There is this biphobia belief that bi people will cheat on you and enjoy threesomes. Lisa even said she wasnt happy he was working with her. I dont think were conditioned to believe her at all. Here is the message. People can testify all they want but the bottom line is there is no evidence. #JasonMomoa #LisaBonet, Antoinette (@starshine_3) January 13, 2022. Could you imagine the rage you would have if your partner severed your finger? I think he loved her and said he did in order to protect her. Richard Marks testifies in the courtroom at the Fairfax County Circuit Court in Fairfax, Va., Monday May 2, 2022. LAST YEAR, AMBER Heard filed for divorce from actor Johnny Depp and subsequently filed a domestic violence restraining order against him. To revist this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. They bring gifts hell never open. have you ever in your rants stated that you want to **** dead corpse of your partner to make sure he is dead? Nazir's personal assessment was echoed in a wave of comments shared by fans of The Pirates of the Caribbean star Depp. No photos, no medical records, no nothing. The two were together for 16 years, which means their divorce might come as something of a shock. The exes are pictured attending the Virgin Atlantic Gala screening of "Black Mass" during the BFI London Film Festival at Odeon Leicester Square on October 11, 2015 in London, England. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. What are we, as women, supposed to take away from this tacit endorsement of his behavior? This is the most painful and difficult thing Ive ever gone through, for sure.. Just wondering if anyone out there believes her side of the story. I just listened to a few mins. "I have been told abusers stare at victims in court," Nazir wrote. Mind you, any evidence supporting that he was physically abusive has been largely discredited. Jason Momoa & Lisa Bonnet are divorcing. Its Finally Dawning On Me That I Might Be Single Forever, The Best True-Crime Podcasts to Listen to Now, These Celebrities Who Married Normal People Will Surprise You, Listen to The Run-Through with Vogue, a new weekly podcast featuring the most exciting stories and hot takes from the worlds of culture, politics, sports andof coursefashion. What really grinds my gears is that Amber is making a mockery out of domestic violence and will be used to discredit victims. Women are labelled as money grabbers or dismissed as attention-seekers. What will this trial do to women already afraid to report their abusers? There are lots of statistical studies done to back this up. Create an account or log in to participate. However, GFR managed to quote some of the statement before it was removed. she's a nut. I also believe that when Johnny did hit back it was akin to a shove, not chasing and holding her down and beating the shit out of her. We certainly dont want to believe that this entire court case is a precise and conniving operation in discrediting Heard, regardless of what she has to say, regardless of her truth. Both have stated that they don't believe men are victims of abusive women, that the man always has the power in the relationship and therefore it's their own fault if they are harmed by their "victim.". It is plain misogyny. A presenter appearing on Australian breakfast TV show Sunrise has issued a brutal comment on the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial after the Aquaman actress took to the stand. And if after everything that has been presented in this trial (not to mention the UK trial where JD lost as the judge found that he was the abuser in that relationship - about 130 pages of court decision with evidences presented are available online), then yes I think that about everyone who supports him and also everyone who goes with well both of them abused narrative. Now Depps former business managers are alleging that the actor did indeed get violent with Heard. I would like to add that i think amber enabled his substance abuse. Mondays testimony ended with one of Depps female lawyers cant have his first chair, a man, go after the little lady, am I right? She was dragged into this. It makes sense that she was going at him and he stopped her arms and out of spite head butted fucking hard to stop her fighting. She kept trying to catch your eye but you never allowed it. The mother of his children, Winona Ryder, Kate Moss ect.. All concluded he was not an abusive man. Lol. Sometimes I wonder if Im watching clips from a different trial than everyone else, because from what Ive seen, both of these people seem toxic AF. He said the op-ed was devastating to Mr Depp, suggesting that Disney wouldnt put him in the sixth Pirates film under this cloud. advertising. On the other hand, he is larger than life. They broke up in May 2016 and settled their divorce out of court in August 2016. "Him looking down most of the time was concerning. Thats batsht crazy behavior. While he agreed that there were negative stories circulating about Mr Depp before the op-ed, Mr Marks said the column was something different. So mutually abusive can include physical vs verbal abuse (they do not have to be the same type of abuse). Consider that a majority male jury convicted Harvey Weinstein. If either one of them feels justified in any of the things theyve done in this relationship, they need professional intervention on an ongoing (probably permanent) basis. Just that language alone is highly disturbing and should have you think what is in the heart of a person who uses such language. I believed him last week but my god he was so melodramatic. The answer doesn't lie in chanting "believe all women", a mantra implying that the only way of overcoming centuries of misogyny is to treat women alone as above suspicion. But I never called. I do believe Johnny is downplaying the severity of their fights, and I do believe amber is embellishing the shit out of them. . I agree I think shes very much so the aggressor as well. Feel like Amber really hurt the bi community in more ways than one (which i understand is small issue in comparison). It's a good campaign. When Heard . i dont think Amber Heard believes Amber Heard. Still would be considered SA though. It hurts SA victims with PTSD that actually struggle with memory (both amber and her reactionaries). Amber Heard Blamed For The End Of Jason Momoa's Marriage byJacob Dressler January 16, 2022 It's recently been announced that actor Jason Momoa has ended his marriage with Lisa Bonet. He refuses to look at her.#JohnnyDeppVsAmberHeard #DeppHeardTrial pic.twitter.com/RWDsfLdZ91. Children but interest outside their waking hours.. August 01, 2022 | by AMOM-A-BAZILLIONMORE. Are we not witnessing a modern-day witch trial? It seems like she was trying to remember, They told me to say eggshells.. But shouldnt we have just believed her in the first place. After doing some digging, some claim that Amber was potentially stealing quotes from movies and TV shows. Sounds better than she did it because lots of drugs , yeah being wasted doesnt help but I am hoping if she was wasted then it was at least unintentional. Aggressive_Elk_1754 3 mo. They both had issues. Anyone who recalls the testimony of Harvey Weinsteins rape victims some of whom continued to have consensual sex with Weinstein after their attacks, who sent him warm emails, one even writing she hoped to introduce Weinstein to her mother can attest to that. I suppose my real question is, are they saying she did it intentionally? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Alicia Lutes / Twitter / Twitter. Please dont tell me she was sober. And I didnt see myself as a victim. Johnny Depps former manager has now supported Heards allegations. Johnny Depp and Amber Heard's ongoing trial is now concluding its fourth week. He is using such vile language and accusations against her in this very message just so he can protect her in the last paragraph of the same message. , of course they will say she did it intentionally. I struggle to find the words to describe how painful this is, she said, PEOPLE reports. Shes focusing on all of it. Still would be considered SA though. Depp and Heard met on the set of the 2011 film The Rum Diary and married in 2015. There are no perfect victims. for the content of external websites. Through his lawyers, he accused Heard of trying to extend her fifteen minutes of fame. Heards time on the stand comes after Depps legal team spent three weeks painting a portrait of the actress in which she was allegedly verbally and physically abusive towards her then-husband. Maybe bc Im reading a lot of the testimony and not hearing it I am so confused as to why people like him. Photo: ELIZABETH FRANTZ/POOL/AFP via Getty Images Last week, Amber Heard took the stand in her ongoing defamation trial. His die hard fans argue that he wanted to protect her by saying it was him, but just look at this message. Depp had previously lost a 2020 libel case against British tabloid The Sun, which had labeled the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory star a "wife-beater," in reference to Heard's allegations of domestic abuse. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. Johnny Depp engaged in abusive behaviours (name calling, talking about killing himself, etc) due to the abuse against him but I do not believe he is an abuser or Amber Heard is a victim of abuse. While Mr Marks said he didnt know of any, he went on to speculate, I assume Amber Heard thought her career would get better by bringing this out. She said she asked him about a tattoo on his arm that looked like black marks. Also, not specific to this case but people abuse other people all the time, very very badly, and get away with it! I cant think of any actresses who have prevailed, whove been cancelled, Mr Marks said. . He admitted to cutting his own finger. . Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. submissions or preferences. I believe her side and I believe some of his side. 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